So why not? Anakin could've then taken the fight to ground of his choosing. Just use their skill set, their fighting styles, their feats, and even the fighting place. Maul being better fit means nothing as Dooku has successfully taken on opponents half his age and less. Name one time kenobi has state a force battle with a force user with the intent of harming them. At that point in time, Darth Maul was under Darth Sidious's apprenticeship. ROTS Anakin vs Darth Maul. These guys are the force. PS. Maul stalemated grevious and was only able to edge him when he was caught off guard. Traitor. And because of Darth Maul's lack of experience in Light Saber combat in this story, he lost because Obi-Wan changed his Light Saber fighting style to a different form which Darth Maul isn't familiar with, Obi-Wan at this point has far more experience in Light Saber combat than Darth Maul does in this story. But Obi-Wan was ready. And still, neither man could gain an advantage. Obi-Wan is NOT the better Light Saber duelist, did you not watch their second rematch, Obi-Wan and Maul fought a stalemate, they were evenly matched. @erkan12: You could argue that Anakin will get provoked by anger and Maul would feed off it. #2: That fight is so heavily contradicted by numerous feats, statements and scaling. Anakin as of Revenge of the Sith unquestionably takes this one. "As every step becomes more perilous and Vader's attacks more ferocious, Obi-Wan realizes that he still cares for Anakin, and that the only way he can defeat his opponent is to let go of his feelings for his former friend. But Maul was still capable of getting a few hits on Obi-Wan despite his lack of of experience in Light Saber combat since TPM. I'd say Anakin takes this 6-7/10. @yousufkhan1212: no maul isn't. I doubt maul is pushing anakin. "Still, the fight continued, even as the collection tower sank slowly into the lava. If the area was bigger and Darth Maul and Savage would manage to pin Obi-Wan to the wall, Obi-Wan would have absolutely NO chance of surviving if Darth Maul and Savage pin him to a wall, Obi-Wan would have been slaughtered to mincemeat. Darth Vader vs Darth Maul # Darth Maul N before you bring up that vader beat Maul in the next scan, he did it though a cop out move of stabbing him self in the chest, not because of skill; in fact Maul clearly had the upper hand on him throughout the entire fight and even had him on his knees. I put the timelines in so you know what era and strength level they are at. @shootingnova: I once read this quote related to the duel between Anakin and Obi-Wan on Mustafar in Comic Vine threads and I think you were there, but since I've read so many threads that I've lost count of, I couldn't find it. Obviously Phantom Menace or even AoTC Anakin Skywalker would be weaker then Revenge of the Sith. The son of Mother Talzin, he was trained by Sidious as a Sith assassin and became an incredibly skilled duelist. @erkan12: the Vos who beat dooku would beat maul and dooku is a tier above maul. Anakin was also conflicted between 2 emotional "worlds", probably because he wasn't fully succumbed to the Dark Side and felt guilty about Order 66, and because of Anakin's emotions that he couldn't control, he was vulnerable, here's a Source supporting that: "But even Sidious hadn't foreseen Anakin's defeat by Obi-Wan Kenobi on Mustafar. Maul could use that athleticism and maneuverability to run away from Dooku. The blockade fell. Sneak Preview __ 1 of 4: General Grievous (Sneak Preview) __ 2 of 4: Tion Medon (Sneak Preview) __ 3 of 4: Wookiee Warrior (Sneak Preview) __ 4 of 4: R4-G9 (Sneak Preview) __ Anakin Skywalker's Jedi Starfighter Basic Figures Collection 1 are main characters with "action features" aimed at kids. Anakin is a more skilled lightsaber duelist then most of the Jedi Council, the only reason he lost to Obi Wan was due to his emotions. Now he was a Sith Lord-Darth Maul, Dark Lord of the Sith.'' Obi Wan vs Asajj Ventress 4. Round 3: Darth Maul Bloodlusted. Anakin takes this 7/10. Firstly, how do you even know how big it is? Because some styles have advantage against other styles. Anakin would beat Maul after a good fight. Anakin faces Maul on the ship where he fought Dooku. @bigsambino87: 8-9/10 is absolutely ridiculous, LET ALONE 10/10. Neither of them really use the Force as a primary attack mechanism in their fights, plus they're both relatively within the same ball park as far as raw power goes. Maul manages to casually disarm, and force Oppress to submit as his apprentice. Unless you're trying to argue old wounds maul was from an alt. It was perhaps, the hardest thing he had ever tried to do. $16.99. Here's a quote from the Revenge of the Sith Junior Novel. Darth Maul did fight a two jedi's at once. don't know about pre suit vader rots. Maul's only win against a prime Kenobi came when he and his brother ambushed, physically beat, and then mentally unbalanced Kenobi. Star Wars Old Wounds was a Star Wars story written in 2005, anything that happens in TCW doesn't apply to Star Wars Old Wounds, so don't bring anything from the Clone Wars TV Show when you talk about Star Wars Old Wounds. Maul will make him work for it, and this would be one Heck of a fight, but I see Anakin as more powerful in the force, and with Jedi/Sith that goes a long way in a lightsaber battle. Possibly the most sinister question left by Star Wars: The Phantom Menace revolves around Darth Maul's arrival on Tatooine and confrontation with Qui-Gon Jinn: As the Sith races on his speeder bike toward the Jedi, Maul seemingly tries to run down young Anakin Skywalker, whom he doesn't know.His motive may seem unclear, but there are potential explanations for why Maul appeared to … TCW Maul is overall stronger than Obi-Wan. Dooku also stated he could not get an advantage against kenobi via dueling. There. Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links. However Obi-Wan hasn't been in a Light Saber duel for 3 years but that's not EVEN 1 fifth of the amount of time Darth Maul hasn't been in a Light Saber duel for. He let it go." @yousufkhan1212: kenobi may take 6 or 7 rounds, anakin takes almost all of them. Maul juda yaxshi bo'lsa-da, anakindan yaxshi duelchi emas. Furthermore, it's noted that even as Darth Vader that Darth Maul would be able to fight him. Obi-Wan couldn't do it. - Darth Lord: The Rise of Vader. Darth Sidious vs … Anakin Skywalker: Anakin was once a promising young Jedi who has been turned t the dark side of the Force. How come there's no threads of TCW Darth Maul vs TCW Anakin Skywalker? Darth Maul's first pair mechanical legs was inspired by Star Wars Old Wounds but they were replaced in Season 5 with more Human looking mechanical legs, that's literally the only thing they have in common. I think I woke this thread up. His menacing design, acrobatic fighting … Maul has also taken on Grievous in a physical brawl. U ko'plab toifalardagi va eng mos keladiganlardan ustundir. Shuningdek, anakin istisno kuchdir. Maul's physical strength is enough to challenge Anakin, and if Anakin gets angry, Maul would feed off the anger and keep the fight going for a long time. He had to resort to impaling a Jedi knight with his head after he was on the brink of defeat in Sith hunters. However, Obi-Wan was also mentally hindered, but not as much as Anakin was, Obi-Wan was capable of controlling his emotions and have a clear mind unlike Anakin. Even out of shape kenobi held his own vs Vader. *shrugs*. @sirfizzwhizz That's the quote I'm looking for! Maul is not quicker and more athletic than Anakin. And on top of all that, Maul didn't get used to Light Saber combat because he hasn't done it for years in this story, it's similar to when you decide to play a sport which you've not played for a long time and you're not so good at it any more because you haven't practiced it properly or done a warm up. Obi-Wan is next, and then Savage Opress is a bit behind. He isn't. That's basically what Darth Maul and Obi-Wan's rematch in this story is, Darth Maul decided to challenge Obi-Wan in a Light Saber duel when he hasn't been practicing or got used to it properly whereas Obi-Wan has been in more Light Saber duels far more recently and he's more used to it. Old wounds maul still had tpm experience, and I don't see why he couldn't be the same maul. He's beaten Dooku (someone more or less Maul's equal with a lightsaber), stalemated Obi-Wan (someone who's also pretty much Maul's equal with a blade, while hindered), and is considered to be a Tier 9 duelist. It was dead for 9 months until I asked this question... @kbroskywalker: Anakin was a better Light Saber duelist than Obi-Wan is during ROTS without question. What evidence do you have to even suggest that it was bigger than a freighter and do you have any evidence? Kenobi was also strong enough to rip grevious' admittedly damaged armor. He had argued for Anakin, made excuses, covered for him again and again and again; all the while this attachment he denied even feeling had blinded him to the dark path his best friend walked. General Grieovus vs Darth Maul 5. Obi-Wan's Soresu was also a good counter for Maul's Juyo. Obi-Wan only managed to hold off Maul and Savage because of the narrow, cramped area he was in that prevented Darth Maul and Savage from automatically pinning Obi-Wan to the wall. In Rots Kenobi disabled all of grevious' lightsaber in barely over a minute. Maul was a Dathomirian Zabrak and the apprentice of Darth Sidious, the Dark Lord of the Sith. Related: Clone Wars Makes Rebels’ Ahsoka Vs Darth Vader Moment More Tragic In Star Wars: The Clone Wars season 7, episode 10, "The Phantom Apprentice", Maul reveals this vitally important element of Darth Sidious' plan when he's confronted by Ahsoka. Star Wars Evolutions Anakin Skywalker to Darth Vader 3 Fig Set Hasbro 2005 NEW. Anakin Skywalker should win this in a good battle... his performance against Dooku was exceptional. And guess what? And Maul also has another weapon that will be really useful which is feeding off anger, Anakin tends to rely on raw power and anger which is a weakness. It didn't scare me enough then; it does now. Im going to support ROTS Anakin as well. Maul lost both of his other duels with him. Maul has dominated Obi-Wan with the Force MORE THAN ONCE. New Lot Of 2 Star Wars ROTS Dooku Vs Anakin & Mace Vs Darth Sidious Battle Arena. Darth Maul could barely put up a fight against Jedi Master Obi-Wan in Old Wounds, but it's understandable because Darth Maul hasn't even been in a Light Saber duel for a time frame of around 16 years which is a pretty long time, and it's safe to say he's not been in a Light Saber duel for that long because he's been stalking Obi-Wan for a long time because he wants revenge. You need to stop using ABC logic in Star Wars battles, that is your biggest problem here. Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by DARTH-SMELLY-FEET, Nov 13, 2007. You are ignoring the context of the situation and sayinh "Regardless of circumstance". Hon Solo vs Jango Fett 7. The hooldlum spirits have recognized him as one of the most powerful Jedi. On the planet of Mytable, Darth Maul had killed Anakin. Free shipping . ROTS anakni Mace Windu-ni mag'lub eta oladimi yoki yo'qligi haqida hozirgacha munozarali mavzular mavjud. Maul dispatched Qui-Gon and was manhandling both Qui and young Obi. There's another Source known as The Ultimate Visual Guide that mentioned Obi-Wan's emotional attachment for Anakin, it is unclear whether it supports the Revenge of the Sith Novel or Junior Novel, but it seems to be supporting the Junior Novel because it says Obi-Wan realised that the only way he could defeat Anakin is to let go of his emotional attachment for him, so it's suggesting that for a moment after Anakin was cut down, Obi-Wan still felt conflicted about letting go of his emotional attachment and decided to let it go after he thought about it, so therefore it's supporting the Revenge of the Sith Junior Novel. And so what if Obi-Wan was capable of ripping Grievous's damaged armor? If the area was bigger and Darth Maul and Savage would manage to pin Obi-Wan to the wall, Obi-Wan would have absolutely NO chance of surviving if Darth Maul and Savage pin him to a wall, Obi-Wan would have been slaughtered to mincemeat. Maul does not have the feats to prove he could be Anakin. Obi-Wan could BARELY handle Grievous and was forced to jump around and switch locations. A mistimed leap over Obi-Wan allowed him to swiftly cut Anakin, leaving him disabled on the shore of a lava river. And when has Obi-Wan easily broken through Maul's defences? Indeed, one must be calm and serene against Maul. Anakin(ROTS) vs General Grievous(Clone Wars before Mace Windu crushed his chest) 2. Obi-Wan Kenobi: Obi-Wan is a fearless Jedi Knight whose years of lightsaber training and knowledge of the Force serve to protect and guide him as he fights the Separatist forces. I repeat... Obi-Wan is NOT the better Light Saber duelist, they are EQUALS. Is that mean Vos beats Maul, and Savage Opress ragdolls Maul too ? It's worth mentioning that Grievous's Cybernetic body has Super Human Strength that can crush Transparisteel armor with ease, and don't forget that during this scene Maul was just recently tortured by Dooku's Force Lightning, fought waves of battle Droids, sliced up Magna Guards, while Grievous only sat in his ship and killed a few Mandalorians, and even when Grievous kicked Maul several metres away, Maul took that Super Human kick as if it was nothing. They spun and whirled throughout its levels, up its stairs, and across its platforms; they battled out onto the collection panels over which the cascades of lava poured, and Obi-Wan, out on the edge of the collection panel, hunching under a curve of durasteel that splashed aside gouts of lava, deflecting Force blasts and countering strikes from this creature of rage that had been his best friend, suddenly comprehended an unexpectedly profound truth. As for thread, anakin, it's like dooku vs kenobi with anakin being on par with dooku and maul having kenobi as his upper limit. While old wounds is non canon, the fight itself was referenced in a legends grevious comic and features a post prime kenobi beating maul again. Anakin all the way. @zapan871: doesn't beat kenobi's tk twice vs anakin one being against him unhindered. Also, I'd like to say: Kenobi was pre-prime and was using immovability when he knocked down the trees. Ever since Darth Maul revealed his double-bladed lightsaber in Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace, people have debated if the Sith Lord was more powerful than the Star Wars saga's ultimate villain, Darth Vader. The same Source that said Anakin couldn't control his emotions because of his fears also said that Anakin's rage was as a weakness that Obi-Wan was aware of. The Phantom Menace takes place 13 years before Revenge of the Sith, Star Wars Old Wounds takes place 3 years after Revenge of the Sith. In this panel from ''Darth Maul: Son of Dathomir'' Issue #1, Maul and Grevious have a brief blade lock, Grievous sees an opening and kicks Maul away, but Maul had no reaction or scream in pain whatsoever, but Maul was forced to retreat and was frustrated because Grievous had an entire army approaching and Maul's army was crushed as you can see in this panel. AKA how Darth Maul ends up caring for a little shit named Anakin Skywalker. Slightly shorter metal Anakin saber. But so is Maul. Vader calls on the darkside to harness more power, but he overwhelmed by rage. Tyranus is better than Maul, though not by a wide margin. Yet Obi beat Maul and his brother at the same time. No more, no less. Anakin wins. By giving in to his rage and hatred to kill his own master-by wanting to kill his own master-Maul had in fact passed the final test. Did you not read the panel properly? @yousufkhan1212: I don't think I've heard of that before. Under normal circumstances, Savage Opress is really no match for Count Dooku or Darth Maul (as shown in the show). Here's a Source: "Anakin is haunted by nightmares and fears for the people he loves. Or RotS Vader = Amped RotS Kenobi > Base RotS Kenobi > TCW Kenobi = TCW Maul. It was literally talking about lightsaber dueling. Would win more battles with the lightsaber or is better gifted. Obi-Wan had a lot of trouble handling Grievous which was noted in the ROTS Novel. Oh, this was a gift. Thread originates from a major headache the Clone Wars series gave me. Since I've already proven that Anakin was mentally hindered because he couldn't control his emotions and that his mind was unclear due to it being clouded by hate, fear, pride and arrogance, George Lucas said in "The Chosen One" Commentary that Anakin had doubts about the Jedi and what's good and the possibility of saving Padme from death, all those thoughts caused confusion in Anakin's mind, a suitable word for that is turmoil, which George Lucas uses. Savage had a serious rage amp and was displaying such God like levels of power at the time that be could ragdoll Dooku and Ventress simultaneously. Re: Darth Vader(ROTJ) vs Count Dooku(ROTS) vs Maul(SoD) on November 17th 2020, 3:56 pm "vader's military power made sedriss and kar vastor shit their pants more than they even shat their pants" - phantom menace. Here's a quote from the Revenge of the Sith Novel: "Obi-Wan back flipped from the conduit to a coupling nexus of the main collection plant; when Anakin flew in pursuit, Obi-Wan leapt again. In sabers Obi wan himself acknowledged that Anakin was better than him. Back on topic. Anakin wins. Grievous was well aware of Maul's presence and had Droids at his side whereas Maul was alone, Maul used the Force to push the Droids and on Grievous and tackled him in a physical tackle. Yes Obi-Wan was ambushed, tired in their first rematch, but he could STILL fight. Kenobi is definitely maul's physical superior. Maul would try to outpower Anakin and would lose badly. However Obi-Wan hasn't been in a Light Saber duel for 3 years but that's not EVEN 1 fifth of the amount of time Maul hasn't been in a Light Saber duel for. Anakin as a padawan manipulated dreadnaughts and as a knight has much better tk feats than maul. Anakin is far stronger than Obi-Wan is. @jayc1324: really? 13 + 3 = 16. Noticeable differences in metal Anakin: deep yellow ignition switch and dark copper button. He has physically matched anakin, a dude who was strong enough that his strikes have cracked stone and could crush a manga guards' hand with his. That's also apply to Kenobi / Dooku comparison, Kenobi isn't Dooku, therefor Anakin was unable to penetrate his defense. Obi-wan also trained and was uniquely qualified to fight him. Maul does not have the same advantages. It gave him an advantage Obi-Wan could not match. He's better in the most relevant categories. Anakin insolently refused to concede and—ignoring Obi-Wan’s warning, “Don’t try it”—launched into a mighty leap and mid-air spin very similar to the over-the-head jump that Kenobi himself had used to defeat Darth Maul. $55.95. 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